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Since: 05-19-17
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Um, i actually don't like the idea of randomizing user IDs, really, it looks confusing.

It's like you're trying to build a new house but keeping the basement of the old one, which would be rather ugh to do. Either revert them back or randomize all IDs, i don't know what's worse.

Also no reason to randomize stuff, unless you have a point of doing so.


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Posted on 01-15-18, 02:04 pm
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um, if I am correct, the User ID is in registration order.
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Posted on 01-15-18, 07:23 pm
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No, maor got the idea of making them random since a while, which is ugly imo.

Edit: look at the ID of this post.


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Posted on 01-15-18, 07:25 pm (rev. 1 by MoonlightCapital on 01-15-18, 07:26 pm)
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It isn't in random order though, let's say someone had a post ID of #5555, if the next person posted and their post ID is #5557, it means someone else might of posted in a different thread before the person with #5557 posted his/her post

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Posted on 01-15-18, 07:30 pm (rev. 3 by ModMaker on 01-15-18, 07:34 pm)
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No whatever, ignore the edit, i just wanted to point out that i had ID 3222 because lol.

Another reason i think of the randomized IDs are because they're trying to inflate the user count.


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Posted on 01-15-18, 07:38 pm
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Another reason i think of the randomized IDs are because they're trying to inflate the user count.
Wouldn't you just be able to look at the member list?
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Posted on 01-15-18, 07:43 pm
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Ok, so, now that I fixed my PC, I can finally respond to this thread.

So, uh, basically, there are 2 main reasons: The nuke not registering everything (mostly fixed, but not quite yet) and it's overall a better practice to stop using Incremental Counters.

Another reason i think of the randomized IDs are because they're trying to inflate the user count.
No.

So, lets get into our first reason: The nuke.

So the nuke removes a user permanently from the SQL servers. However, there are 2 problems: It's currently incomplete and it can't remove cookies (no, not sessions. Cookies). The nuke cannot and never will remove cookies, as that's currently stored on your PC. Meaning that unless we force the site to be a Electron app (and I know how many of you like those /sarcasm), it'll still linger on your PC. Now, I'll tell you the story of a board.

So, I was on a board, and they still had incremental counters. Now, I registered using a proxy, and that derp (not mentioning him because of drama) nuked me (for no reason, sure, but that's besides the point). Now, during the time I got banned, another user registered under the name Luigi_Fan. I changed my IP, so that I wont be banned and BEHOLD! I was able to access that account. Why? I never deleted my cookies, and there was no IP_Ban under the new IP. The sessions messed up, so I was enabled access. For that, the bug relies in the nuke, but there are a bunch of other things that aren't deleted. One of those being Permissions. So I decided to remove all complications, and just randomize it.

Although this does restrict us to strictly 999999999 and not 1000000008 ID's possible, we'll most likely never reach that number anyways.

Now for the second reason: Better Practice.

Watch this video until 3:20.

BTW, uh, just saying, not trying to put blame on him, but rather, trying to give proper credits: This was all made possible by Not Jon.
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Posted on 01-16-18, 05:39 am
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Aren0t the sessions stored in the database in a cookie-dbsession pair? I'll look into it.


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Posted on 01-16-18, 06:38 am
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What a trainwreck is this thread.

Why the need to randomize ids? This site doesn't and will never get a silver of the scale that sites that use them, so they mean shit for this site. There's no security issue about leaving the ids raw. Enumerating the users is not a security issue despite what other people might think, at worst a performance issue due to not being able to ratelimit the little shits so they slurs the server's like a slush.
Posted on 01-16-18, 10:06 am
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Hmmmm.... I suppose I can do a poll on it. I'll do so after school. Although that'll involve fixing the nuke to make it nuke everything of the user.
Old 3DS XL info:
I used to have a 3DSafe A9LH V11.3.0-36U with Luma in my CTRNAND. Since ReiNAND Reibooted and Re-Reileased, I "switch"ed back.
Right now, I have boot9strap with Luma 8.0 as my CFW. Though, I'd like to see other CFW's for B9S.
Posted on 01-16-18, 02:45 pm
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I still don''t understand how the post ID's are not in order. Aren't they in numberical order by time of post.

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Posted on 01-17-18, 02:35 am
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No, he's talking about the User ID's. Not post ID's. He was talking about something else when he said that he got post ID 3222
Old 3DS XL info:
I used to have a 3DSafe A9LH V11.3.0-36U with Luma in my CTRNAND. Since ReiNAND Reibooted and Re-Reileased, I "switch"ed back.
Right now, I have boot9strap with Luma 8.0 as my CFW. Though, I'd like to see other CFW's for B9S.
Posted on 01-17-18, 02:38 am
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oh, K. But still, they still appear to be in order. I mean look at your User ID. It's 1. You were the first one here right? Mine is 78, assuming I was the 78th member here (which is logical).
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Posted on 01-17-18, 02:41 pm
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No, for new people, they are random. Look at Sm-ArtThings for example. He has a random ID.
Old 3DS XL info:
I used to have a 3DSafe A9LH V11.3.0-36U with Luma in my CTRNAND. Since ReiNAND Reibooted and Re-Reileased, I "switch"ed back.
Right now, I have boot9strap with Luma 8.0 as my CFW. Though, I'd like to see other CFW's for B9S.
Posted on 01-17-18, 10:46 pm
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Posted on 01-17-18, 11:33 pm